(May 12, 2013 at 4:00 am)Godschild Wrote: Yes, God allowed Satan to tempt Adam and Eve, that's the only way Satan could approach to them, God's in control. He did not get mad, He did discipline them, you're just to blind to realize what actually happened.
He disciplined them for a scenario that he engineered with the sole purpose of giving them something to fail. And that's according to your logic, not mine; god made the tree in the garden specifically to give Adam and Eve the potential to do something wrong, and then he pretends it's some grand slight on him when it happens. Glad to know you're brainless enough to accept that as a good thing.
Oh, incidentally, where's the morality in me getting punished for that original sin, hmm?
GC Wrote:I was not looking for an alternative answer, I've probably studied those passages many more times than you have ever read them. So who's the huckster here, I believe it to be you, the one trying to fool everyone that you have studied scripture and knows what scripture says.
Hey moron? I wasn't demanding that you have an alternate answer, I was saying that I was hoping there would be an answer other than "god put the tree there to tempt his creations," because that's the most breathtakingly idiotic justification one could produce, assuming they want to paint god as benevolent. And yet you went there, presumably grinning like an idiot as though you're actually imparting some good news.
Quote:Mindless, then I have no description for one who sets below mindless, sorry bud you have no description.
Thank you for the sumptuous word salad, I'm sure that'll dissuade us all from thinking you mindless, GC.
GC Wrote:Man you sure are one mixed up individual, respect and obedience go hand in hand. Respect: relation to something specified, God specified obedience and they disobeyed, being neither respectful nor obedient, showing selfishness over their love for God. The only illusion we have here is that of your sanity. We follow Christ with respect, actual belief, sincerity and love. Giving tithes, using our God given minds, respect, obedience and ect. shows our love for Him, God actually needs no cheerleaders, yet He chooses to work through people, for those who love Him it's an honor.
So, the person asking for respect gets to dictate the terms of how that respect should manifest? Seriously? Are you fucking insane?
Quote:God doesn't need to earn our respect for Him, it's something that we should give because He is creator and savior. You pay for your own sins against God, not the ones committed by Adam and Eve. In the end death will reveal the truth, that you can be certain of.
Respect isn't automatically given just via creation. My dad created me, but that two fisted son of a bitch gets no respect because of his actions after my birth. Your ultimate creator, the cosmic genocidal bully who, in your theology, has a streak of pettiness miles wide, fares no better.
Saying that you're brainwashed and would respect him no matter what isn't a point in his favor, it's just a measure of the level of intimidation this mental virus can instill.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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