(May 14, 2013 at 11:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I thought that those words pretty much summed up what you had a problem with.
Yeah, but on any level. You added the federal government part which sums up your entire argument and has nothing to do with mine.
Quote:Why thank you, I'll continue to supply the labor you'll need to repave them.
Do you get paid for that or do it to pay back whatever government assistance you got? Do not get me wrong. I do not think you should have to. I'm just pointing out the gaping hole in your earlier statement.
Quote:Assuming that some medical condition doesn't prevent us from being able to earn enough money to properly take care of them - at which point you'll end up paying more - as they end up wards of the state or in prisons. Enjoy.
Derp. What does that have to do with anything? Essentially saying that you could get disabled and make me have to pay more for your children really does nothing to negate the fact that I shouldn't have to put in a dime for anyone's parental leave. Does not mean I would not if given the choice. It just means I should not have to and neither should a business.
Quote:Read a few pages back, where I mentioned that any additional state laws are the states own business, and hopefully we wouldn't be arguing with a states rights to pass a law.
Given that we live in two separate states, I'm quite surprised that you expected my initial argument to have anything to do with yours and why in the hell would this be an argument about state's rights to pass laws? This is about anyone, anywhere, for any level of government, paying for maternity leave involuntarily.
Quote:There is no federal requirement, there is nothing that says -if in the US, you must pay for maternity leave- by the only people who are authorized to make such a statement.
Who said there was? No one, so, um, I'm still not sure why you are hanging onto this other than that it is the only level at which there is no requirement at all.
Quote:You stopped digging when you thought you found what you hoped to find Shell, sorry.
No, Rhythm. I am aware of that. It just is completely irrelevant as you keep getting stuck on the whole "people in the United States" thing when that had fuckall to do with it. No one, anywhere, for any reason. Get it?
Quote:That wiki you linked...directed to this - in the stats box.....That's all that's mandated by the US, that's the sum total of federal involvement in the issue. End of.
No one cares about this. You are arguing a straw man and wasting your time.
Quote: Again, when you incorporate in a state - when you operate a business in a state - you are agreeing to follow that states laws - so even here...no one..is being forced...to do...anything. That point cannot possibly be driven home hard enough.
It can be made too much, as it is a retarded point. This is not a country nor are any of the states places where laws cannot be changed when people disagree with them. "Like it or move" is an ignorant perspective. Always has been. "Can't speak English. Get out." is pretty fucking similar.
Quote:Delivery is a major medical procedure, recovery from which can be classified as a temporary disability. FMLA protects you from being fired - short term disability pays out - wait for it- because you are temporarily disabled.
No it is not. Most women are up and at 'em in days. It can be complicated, do not get me wrong, but if there are no complications, it is not major, at all.
Quote:Neither program has anything to do with paying people to suckle their kids. So.........
You're the only one pigeon holing it into those two programs because it suits your argument. The fact that anywhere else in the world or even in this country does it differently does not seem to register what.so.ever. Weird.
