RE: Men and Women equal? No, never.
May 15, 2013 at 3:59 am
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2013 at 4:57 am by Violet.)
(May 14, 2013 at 7:01 pm)Shell B Wrote: Hmm. I couldn't get past the part where the woman is not going to be doing anything for a year. A woman actually does not have to be out for more than a week when she gives birth. Maternity leave is rarely as long as a year and few jobs require so much physical labor that a woman cannot do the job. In fact, few shop jobs even require heavy lifting. We have machines for that.
Not that she hasn't recovered enough in a week to apply leverage and get the job done even IF heavy lifting is involved.
Hydraulic jacks are fucking awesome, by the way. Totally fucking awesome.
(May 14, 2013 at 7:13 pm)paulpablo Wrote: When you say men and women aren't equal I take it you mean men and women aren't equal in different industries, in general most men will be suitable for certain jobs and women will be better at other jobs?
Boy, wouldn't it be great if you understood that this applied to other things, mentioned in other threads
Yeah yeah... I'll keep dreaming.
(May 14, 2013 at 7:16 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: *Michael Winner.
Penis envy? I don't envy you that little maggot you have.
You don't know what got me fired up? Did you read the shit you wrote? Stupid cunt...
First you tell him he's got a small cock, then you tell him that he's got a brain in his vagina
Maybe he's a hermaphrodite...?
(May 14, 2013 at 7:53 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I believe when he said the woman is not going to be doing anything for a year he was referring to UK maternity leave, which is paid leave for upto a year. Most women take the whole year, but some only take 6 months because the pay goes down half-way through.
Suddenly, I know why Tiberius is always going on about misandry 0.o If that's true, then that's absolutely psychotic.
Not that I personally understand the idea of 'paid leave'. Sounds like it's meant as a social safety net for when you get injured... but I think that could be more easily granted through socialism (maybe try a mixed charity-socialism? Where if charity isn't there sufficiently for them, the society will pay the remainder as a tax?). If it's getting used like this... well: I would never hire a female with any reasonable chance of becoming/being pregnant.
Quote:How could he possibly have a citation for something that never even happened?
Hmmm... do you do anything constructive with your time here, or do you spend every other post attempting to insult people? Take Shell... she insults people often, but at least it's clearly an insult to the person she's insulting.
Learn from the Shell She may lack for creativity, but she knows what she's doing. Usually
(May 14, 2013 at 8:05 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Well, I think this has already been said, but wouldn't this be more thoroughly cementing strict gender roles? I don't think many people want that.
But yet, some people do want that.
Women totally got the sugar side of the candy from my perspective, oh how I'd have loved to have been born 60 years ago (with a vagina please) to abuse the living hell out of that position
(May 14, 2013 at 8:15 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Hey guess what? I'M FEMALE. On top of that I am not here to receive medals from your sexist ass.
But I'll bet you happily wear every medal given to you by his sexist brain. Bitches love them sexist brains
(May 14, 2013 at 8:18 pm)mo66 Wrote: I don't give a shit what you are, what the hell do I care whether or not you're female? You're just another anonymous internet character who likes to bullshit around and pretend they're doing a service to the world. Get a fucking life.
I wonder then: how one does do a service to (for?) the world? I wasn't aware one couldn't be both anonymous and a servant of the world.
It's not too terribly hard to get a fucking life, you've just got to bounce into that pretty yellow '?' block! It looks like this:
And then you've gotta get lucky.
(May 14, 2013 at 8:21 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Yeah, prove I'm here to do a service to the world. Hint: you can't.
You don't think your opinion is valuable to the world?
A pity, that.
(May 14, 2013 at 8:23 pm)Shell B Wrote: Against male maternity leave? Why?
Because he's for male paternity leave instead
Although, this really does raise an interesting question: can a man be a mother, and a woman be a father?
Actually, that's the most interesting thing out of this thread yet, and I'd love to talk about it ^_^ That's seriously a subject which we could all learn a lot in... nailing down what precisely motherhood and fatherhood are (I would consider this to a a 2-definitioner, the first a biological simplicity, the latter a foundational teacher and supporter of their protege).
But then, maybe the former is more than a biological simplicity (mom/dad, step-fathers and step-mothers), and I'm sure there's a better way to phrase the latter, but I am sleepy X_X
(May 14, 2013 at 8:24 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I'm all for one parent taking a year off work to look after a new baby. It really really pisses me off when people stick their newborn babies in childcare and never see them. It is so unhealthy for such a young baby to spend more time with strangers than their parents. They shouldn't have a baby if they have no intention of taking care of them.
Because being unable to spare a lot of time for a year or three means they don't intend to take care of them? Are they not providing for the child a safe and secure home? Are they not providing for the child healthy food and drink? Are they not tucking the child in at night, responding to its cries during their resting hours, and spending some of their precious little time at home with the child? Are they not providing for the child transportation to and from a person who can take care of the child in their stead as they go to work so as to provide for the child these other blessings?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwjNBjqR-c
I mean hell... public school is a mass daycare, are you about to tell me that it REALLY pisses you off that children spend at least 6 hours a day away from home (school day is some horrendous hours like 7:30AM until 14:30, 7 hours where I come from, and a half hour bus ride each way)... or does this nonsense only apply to babies?
If it only applies to babies (newborn ones, at that): why the arbitration?
Quote:Mo, excluding activities that require the use of genitals, what do you think you can you do because you are a man that I cannot do because I am a woman?
Grow a really gnarly long bear. I mean, I'm sure you could apply some sort of super-cool scientific product... but if they're doing the same: their beard is gonna be WAY bigger.
Probably not what either of you are looking for, of course... but let me tell you this: if I had the choice to remove my facial hair, or to have SRS... I'm picking the removal of facial hair. It'll be an immediate choice too. I do not know how men stand those things. TT__TT
(May 14, 2013 at 8:29 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: If maternity leave is a problem, then businesses should discriminate against straight people instead of women. It's because you breeders can't keep it in your pants or USE FUCKING BIRTH CONTROL that we have so many damn babies being born in the world, and need someone to stay home and watch them. So irresponsible. So stupid.
Because gay men and women don't ever want babies?
Okay.
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day