Quote:Stimbo..........What if the vehicle is the driver?
That is not possible.
Since when something that answer your command is you!
Quote:To separate the two concepts is to say that the one can exist independently of the other.
Not at all Stimbo.
The driver can exist without the vehicle but the vehicle can not exist without the driver.
Have you ever seen a car moving without a driver or a body living without a mind and a spirit?
Quote:Until you demonstrate that this is a true representation of reality, all the rest is pure fantasising.
NDE experiences tell you that this is not fantasising.
Not one or two or 100, but each and everyone who had a NDE experience tell you that there is life without a body.
Even those who did not believe before are admitting this reality.
(May 14, 2013 at 8:58 am)enrico Wrote: To be connected for a lifetime mean absolutely nothing.
Quote:On the contrary, it means a lifetime of experiences and hopes and dreams. Put another way, life. The only one we can possibly know for certain that we're going to get.
Sometime the life seem never ending especially when we are struggling and suffering then all of a sudden when we look at the years past we realize that our present life is gone in a flash.
The time is very tricky. In fact the time in the real dimension does not exist at all.
When you are happy the time can go so quickly that it can come to 0 so when you are stuck to the material-physical reality you can not conceive that this is possible and therefore you tend to glorify this reality as the real one.
(May 14, 2013 at 8:58 am)enrico Wrote: It is like when you enter a car for a period of time and then get out at the end of a run.
Quote:Really? What then? Do we get to drive another vehicle? In fact, what's to stop us from switching vehicles whenever we feel like it, à la Grand Theft Human?
Some people would like to keep on carrying on with creating a bad karma for themselves but there is a limit to evil.
They surely will get a new body but it is likely to be a body of an animal or an insect.
Luckily they are not those who decide in what body they will go next.
(May 14, 2013 at 8:58 am)enrico Wrote: Stimbo write.............What the fuck is "intuitional science"?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-18616-page-2.html
Quote:Well, bugger me sideways, I used a colourful English interjection!
That's ok with me. I only pointed out this to you because you point out to me that it was wrong to scream as writing a sentence in uppercase.
In other words to me it would not make any difference whether one use uppercase or swear (not a swear direct to a person as Minimalist does).
Quote:However, I reiterate:
Quote:When you can point to a single example where I have used expletives purely as a means to make a point, i.e. without provocation or duress, then you may cast stones.(Bolded for your viewing convenience). In your example I was provoked into irritation by some random idiot whose name escapes me for the moment.
I never said that you did it in order to provocate as does the Minimalist.
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