RE: The Case for Atheism
May 20, 2013 at 2:33 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2013 at 2:35 pm by Mystical.)
I think you're confused, Drew. Here.
Agnostic Atheist. Agnostic refers to the knowledge of, and atheist refers to the belief in deities.
Agnostic atheist uses the adjective form of agnostic not the noun form. The meaning changes, it goes from the noun which itself means uncertainty in the existence of a deity , to a descriptive form meaning not knowing (can be applied to many terms as a descriptor.)
Gnostic in descriptive form (adj) means knowledge but not in anything specific; I could be a gnostic multi-verse theorist, which would be claiming knowledge that the theory of the multi-verse concept is correct.
Agnostic in adj form means to not know in anything specific. The word agnostic was first coined by Thomas Huxley, and is a derivative of the word gnostic, itself derived from the Greek gnossis, meaning knowledge. I could be an agnostic string theorist, meaning I don't claim to know if it's right for sure but I believe string theory is correct. Just because I believe in something but don't know for certain: DOES NOT MEAN there wasn't sufficient evidence given, to lead me to that conclusion.
Gnostic theist: a Theist who claims to know without a doubt that there is a god (which is impossible to know without faith).
Agnostic Theist means a theist who doesn't know if there is a god, but believes in one.
Agnostic atheist is an atheist who doesn't know if there is a god, and doesn't believe in one. It is the default position you were born into without your indoctrination.
Gnostic atheist is one who believes without a doubt there is no god (also impossible to know without faith).
The intellectually honest title for an atheist (without faith) is agnostic atheist. Period.
Agnostic Atheist. Agnostic refers to the knowledge of, and atheist refers to the belief in deities.
Agnostic atheist uses the adjective form of agnostic not the noun form. The meaning changes, it goes from the noun which itself means uncertainty in the existence of a deity , to a descriptive form meaning not knowing (can be applied to many terms as a descriptor.)
Gnostic in descriptive form (adj) means knowledge but not in anything specific; I could be a gnostic multi-verse theorist, which would be claiming knowledge that the theory of the multi-verse concept is correct.
Agnostic in adj form means to not know in anything specific. The word agnostic was first coined by Thomas Huxley, and is a derivative of the word gnostic, itself derived from the Greek gnossis, meaning knowledge. I could be an agnostic string theorist, meaning I don't claim to know if it's right for sure but I believe string theory is correct. Just because I believe in something but don't know for certain: DOES NOT MEAN there wasn't sufficient evidence given, to lead me to that conclusion.
Gnostic theist: a Theist who claims to know without a doubt that there is a god (which is impossible to know without faith).
Agnostic Theist means a theist who doesn't know if there is a god, but believes in one.
Agnostic atheist is an atheist who doesn't know if there is a god, and doesn't believe in one. It is the default position you were born into without your indoctrination.
Gnostic atheist is one who believes without a doubt there is no god (also impossible to know without faith).
The intellectually honest title for an atheist (without faith) is agnostic atheist. Period.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.