(May 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm)Tiberius Wrote: We generally protect the lives of humans with laws. That's what's special.Ones that have actually been born, yeah. Because they have thoughts and feelings.
(May 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Interesting that you include the word "living" to describe the mother. Embryos are also alive.Only in the same sense as a bacterium or a louse.
(May 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm)Tiberius Wrote: No, and it's a hard scenario which I've struggled with for a long time. I'm still not happy, but given that the embryo was forced onto the mother unwillingly in an attack; possibly one of the worst attacks that can happen to a person, I do not believe she should be forced (again) to carry the result to birth. If she wants to, that is great, but I do not hold it against anyone who decides to get rid of a horrible reminder of an assault.So forcing something horrible is fine if she wasn't raped? Brilliant.
(May 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm)Tiberius Wrote: One could argue that embryos are at a disability because of their position in the womb. Given that you use the word "born" in your definition, there is no point in continuing the discussion of personhood, because that is the key thing that separates both our definitions. I doubt we'll ever agree on this.lol! Being a foetus is a disability? I'm writing that one down for future giggles. Lol
(May 22, 2013 at 5:56 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Nobody is forced into it. Consensual sex has its consequences.So? Abortion is one way of dealing with those consequences.
(May 22, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Tiberius Wrote: It looks like a human embryo, which is what matters to me. It's a human. It has human DNA. Not only that, but it has its own individual DNA, and it's alive.I don't know how many times I have to tell you it's not a human or a person. It's a fucking ELEPHANT!
