Ryan,
If anyone questions the ability of mindless lifeless forces to create a universe with life and mind its chalked up to personal incredulity, which actually means a lack of faith.
Didn't take you long to contradict yourself. You wrote
we merely do not assume to be true what cannot be demonstrated.
Yet you assume mindless, lifeless forces came into existence somehow and caused a universe with life and mind yet you can't demonstrate how such occurred.
I didn't accuse atheists of personal incredulity in regards to the existence of God because its a silly argument no matter who employs it. That aside, whether we owe our existence to mindless forces that came into existence somehow and created sentient life without plan or intent or whether it was the result of plan and design by a creator our existence is an extraordinary event and we shouldn't be surprised at an extraordinary explanation.
Very good Ryan, we know through observation that intelligent beings can create objects of significant complexity such as laptops, cars and nuclear plants. We also know that intelligent beings can, thanks to technology, create artificial universes such as in World Of Warcraft and Everquest. No we haven't observed God create a universe but we have observed intelligent beings creating virtual universes.
If anyone questions the ability of mindless lifeless forces to create a universe with life and mind its chalked up to personal incredulity, which actually means a lack of faith.
Quote:With no compelling reason outside of one's own desires to have faith, this is the only honest conclusion one can draw.
Didn't take you long to contradict yourself. You wrote
we merely do not assume to be true what cannot be demonstrated.
Yet you assume mindless, lifeless forces came into existence somehow and caused a universe with life and mind yet you can't demonstrate how such occurred.
Quote:And yet, it is incorrect to be incredulous about a being which created the universe?
I didn't accuse atheists of personal incredulity in regards to the existence of God because its a silly argument no matter who employs it. That aside, whether we owe our existence to mindless forces that came into existence somehow and created sentient life without plan or intent or whether it was the result of plan and design by a creator our existence is an extraordinary event and we shouldn't be surprised at an extraordinary explanation.
Quote: I can watch laptops being constructed. I can always trace that process back to the specific intelligent beings who are responsible for making them. Every laptop in the world can be traced back to an intelligent designer. Who has ever watched God make a universe?
Very good Ryan, we know through observation that intelligent beings can create objects of significant complexity such as laptops, cars and nuclear plants. We also know that intelligent beings can, thanks to technology, create artificial universes such as in World Of Warcraft and Everquest. No we haven't observed God create a universe but we have observed intelligent beings creating virtual universes.