Hello everyone!!

[Psalm 23]

Sorry Psalm23, I've not said hello. I've been reading your threads. Welcome....

It's ok, I know forum boards can be hectic at times. I should know. I try to respond to five different people at once.

Thanks for the welcome.

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Hey if a god or gods do exist, proving it would convince me. However of all the gods ever described anywhere, the biblical one is the most unlikely to me.

Proving God is just as impossible as disproving him. This is where faith is supposed to kick in.

I thank you not to presume what I would like to do. I dare you to find a single message on any board trying me to convince anyone of the non-existence of a god. I am not into that, never have.

Sorry for the assumption. Alot of atheist forum boards claim they have disproven God. All I can do is sit back and wonder why their mind came to that conclusion. Because it's a proven fact that God cannot be disproved.

I call it a threat.

Pascal's wager is simple. He claimed "If the Christian God exists, I win. If the Christian God doesn't exist, I win." There is no judgement casted upon atheists.

Whether it is written down somewhere is not the issue. Can you show how any of the moral laws couldn't have been conceived in a non-theological society? Can you show me one of those laws couldn't possibly be thought of by common reasoning?

Well, take for example, "Thou shalt not murder!" Was that a moral law of society before it was etched in stone tablets? Or what about "Do not commit adultery!" Was it acceptable by society to cheat on your spouse?

Just because it is in some old text doesn't prove any divine intervention dictating it.

I never claimed to have proof that the LORD actually spoke to Moses, and commanded him to write down these Laws. I think we should respect those laws as moral guidelines on the human race.

Why do you think Federal Government Judges, and Supreme Court Justices still have the 10 Commandments in their Courtroom? They believe it's a standard to all moral and decent laws addressed to mankind.

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Hello, and welcome, Psalm 23. I can't speak for anyone else but from my observations atheist abandon the idea of a Creator God as well as worship of any gods due to the simple fact that they don't buy into it. They have a great deal of reason for doing so. They tend to be science minded and political with a strong social conscience and apostate religion seem to be opposed to those things. Ultimately, I think, it is really all about the gross misrepresentation of God by religious maddness from the past that has literally pushed God out of the minds of most people both Xian and Atheist.

First off, I would like to start by saying there is a reason why Scientists are more towards no belief in God. The reason is they don't have to work with life or death situations. The latest survey shows that 76% of U.S Medical Experts believe in God, and 55% believe in the afterlife. Scientists are becoming more understood on "how" everything began, but they cannot come to the conclusion on "why" everything began. Sure, Science can say, "here, this is how the Universe began 14 billion years ago," but can they prove a higher creator didn't make it possible? The answer is simple. No, they can't.

I don't know about the author of The God Delission not being able to prove Jesus wasn't God but I can.

I watched an episode of O'Reilly Factor on FOX News, and Bill O'Reilly had a guest on his show, and he is the author of the Book called, "The God Delusion." Bill O'Reilly came right out and told Professor Richard Dawkins, "You cannot prove to me that Jesus Christ wasn't God." And Mr. Dawkins agreed with him. However, Mr Dawkins told O'Reilly, "You can't prove that Thor or Zeus were not gods either."

I would love to see how you have come to the conclusion that Jesus Christ was not God.

Anyway, welcome and I hope we can have some good discussions, but I tend to shy away from discussions that come from a sort of religious defense. I got tired of debating Xian dogma ages ago. I prefer to concentrate on the Bible.

Thanks for the welcome.. and I assure you, I only get defensive to those who offend me or my religion.