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Hello everyone!!
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leo-rcc Wrote:Whether it is written down somewhere is not the issue. Can you show how any of the moral laws couldn't have been conceived in a non-theological society? Can you show me one of those laws couldn't possibly be thought of by common reasoning?


psalm23 Wrote:Well, take for example, "Thou shalt not murder!" Was that a moral law of society before it was etched in stone tablets?

Yes, in far more societies where they never heard of your tablets murder was and is immoral.

Quote: Or what about "Do not commit adultery!" Was it acceptable by society to cheat on your spouse?

Taking the wife of someone else is also considered immoral in different societies, including those that are not monotheistic.

You seem to assume that previous to the dead sea scrolls everyone was just lusting and murdering around, do you honestly think that?

Quote:Just because it is in some old text doesn't prove any divine intervention dictating it.


Quote:I never claimed to have proof that the LORD actually spoke to Moses, and commanded him to write down these Laws. I think we should respect those laws as moral guidelines on the human race.

I see nothing in the 10 commandments that are not "Well Duh!" laws.

I don't want my stuff stolen. My neighbor doesn't either. We as a group determine that stealing is wrong and we will punish anyone in our group that does steal from us. I don't need a stone tablet for that.


Quote:Why do you think Federal Government Judges, and Supreme Court Justices still have the 10 Commandments in their Courtroom? They believe it's a standard to all moral and decent laws addressed to mankind.

And what about Japanese judges? Or Indonesian? Or are their laws less than your scripture?
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
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Hello everyone!! - by Psalm 23 - November 28, 2008 at 12:15 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by leo-rcc - November 28, 2008 at 12:36 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Psalm 23 - November 28, 2008 at 2:36 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Ace Otana - November 28, 2008 at 4:33 pm
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RE: Hello everyone!! - by Psalm 23 - November 28, 2008 at 2:51 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by leo-rcc - November 28, 2008 at 3:39 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Tiberius - November 28, 2008 at 1:33 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Edwardo Piet - December 3, 2008 at 12:20 am
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Ace Otana - November 28, 2008 at 1:40 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by leo-rcc - November 28, 2008 at 2:47 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Daystar - November 28, 2008 at 3:11 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by CoxRox - November 28, 2008 at 3:25 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Psalm 23 - November 28, 2008 at 3:44 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by leo-rcc - November 28, 2008 at 4:13 pm
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Daystar - November 28, 2008 at 11:04 pm
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RE: Hello everyone!! - by Edwardo Piet - November 29, 2008 at 12:37 am
RE: Hello everyone!! - by Psalm 23 - November 29, 2008 at 11:50 am
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RE: Hello everyone!! - by Tiberius - November 29, 2008 at 5:42 am
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RE: Hello everyone!! - by Tiberius - November 29, 2008 at 3:03 pm
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RE: Hello everyone!! - by CoxRox - November 29, 2008 at 3:45 pm
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RE: Hello everyone!! - by Edwardo Piet - December 3, 2008 at 11:45 am
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