(June 3, 2013 at 5:26 pm)Pandas United Wrote:(June 3, 2013 at 4:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I'm tired of your preaching - even if you just got here I see no difference from any of the rest of your ilk.
The presupposition that your silly superstitions are true and must therefore be treated with respect is simply too much to ask. If you can't defend it but only parrot back the bullshit in your bible expect no quarter.
What presupposition? I sought out God as an agnostic and came to find Him in Jesus. And to say that it is "simply too much to ask" for respectful and substantive dialogue tells me a lot about your approach to argumentation and the environment of these forums overall.
How disappointing.
No you simply clung to words that sounded pretty. Since when did any polythistic religion or monothesitic religion invent the concepts of human compassion or cruelty?
Don't you find it odd that this all powerful god could "poof" all this into existence but cant heal an amputee?
And if a theist is willing to admit people of other religions can be good and atheists also can be good, THAT is proof that we don't need to believe your book of fiction anymore than you need the Reg Vedas to live your life.
You can find all sorts of compassionate stories in ALL religions, and quotes of characters or real people who quote their culture's superstitions, but that does not make the club valid or the god/s they worship real things.
I can find morals in Sar Wars and Dr Sues too, but I accept fiction as fiction.
For any good compassionate thing you claim Jesus said, you can also find quotes where he tells you to abandon or even put to death your own family. You can also find compassionate things in Buddhism and in the Koran.
Liking pretty stories does not justify claims of magic, nor does it constitute morality which has always been a product of evolution and nature and has never been dependent on one religion. Religon takes what we naturally do, both good and bad, and teaches us as a species to cherry pick so we can justify absurdity and cruelty to others.
Humans do good because the cooperation part of evolution works. But gang mentality ALSO works. And a good way to mask a gang as lagit is to claim magical divine morality.