Okay you guys go get a room. . . or at least another thread. 
To keep kind of OP, I'd like to say this: it seems like the "objective" world view is breaking apart, because things at the scale of the very small don't operate as we expect objects to. Physics has solved this by going away from simple algebraic equations to statistical models-- that's fine. But what does it mean when our shared reality is probabilistic? To me it means the universe is better described as idealistic than as an objective reality.
It's back to the chicken and the egg: we normally think of math as representative of the salient features of our physical reality. But why couldn't you equally say that the apparent (i.e. macro) reality is really an expression of math, i.e. that the universe is "really" an interaction of concepts rather than things?
To keep kind of OP, I'd like to say this: it seems like the "objective" world view is breaking apart, because things at the scale of the very small don't operate as we expect objects to. Physics has solved this by going away from simple algebraic equations to statistical models-- that's fine. But what does it mean when our shared reality is probabilistic? To me it means the universe is better described as idealistic than as an objective reality.
It's back to the chicken and the egg: we normally think of math as representative of the salient features of our physical reality. But why couldn't you equally say that the apparent (i.e. macro) reality is really an expression of math, i.e. that the universe is "really" an interaction of concepts rather than things?
