RE: [split] 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
December 17, 2009 at 1:29 pm
(This post was last modified: December 17, 2009 at 1:54 pm by Violet.)
theVOID Wrote:The war isn't revenge as much as it's prevention, the same is true of increased security.
I don't know how you can call 3000 people insignificant, even if it is a small percentage of the population it is still a terrorist attack on innocent lives.
I can call 3000 people insignificant... because the death of 3000 people across a population of ~305,000,000 people will make zero real impact upon the remainder of the population... and in the entire 7,000,000,000: it is not even a noticeable hit to the population. These 3000 people are only noticed because they accompanied massive skyscrapers as they collapsed upon themselves. About 3000 people die a day from car crashes... and many many more are injured. (I'm actually rather surprised that 3000 people died in those attacks... that would seem to suggest the area was not fully evacuated... or was most of that from the pentagon?)
But 3000 people every day... aren't those people significant enough to make driving safer? That would be a much more worthy cause than going to war over a destruction of our American landmarks. America overreacted to the destruction of a few landmarks... it should have been focused on preventing such attacks by increased airport security... and that is just about all it should have done in response to the destruction of a few landmarks by vandals. And now we have a deficit to show just why a nation should not overreact.

Hopefully we are wiser now

(December 14, 2009 at 8:27 pm)Meatball Wrote:(December 14, 2009 at 8:13 pm)Saerules Wrote: Considering that one of the most populated cities in the USA was targeted... i find the death toll to be rather minor. 2,992 noted human deaths and a little over 6,000 noted humans injured? In a city of more than 18.8 million in the metropolitan area alone?Minor? Do you have an example of any other non-military attacks with death tolls like that?
Please define 'non-military'? Just what is 'military'?
(December 16, 2009 at 9:55 am)Tiberius Wrote:(December 16, 2009 at 8:44 am)Pippy Wrote: How does the damage of the black box, which is nearly indestructible mean there was a struggle? It was such a fantastic struggle that is damaged the flight data recorder? I would lean towards a crash into the ground as more likely a cause of said damage.Oh come on. Stop being facetious. You know full well that he meant that cockpit recorder had recorded the sounds the crew and passengers made as they tried to breach the cockpit door in their last bid effort to retake the plane. This is confirmed by the calls made by the passengers themselves to loved ones and the authorities.
Quote:How much resistance to gravity do undamaged floors present? In a pancake collapse theory, what is a reasonable time frame of said collapse whereas there is a congruent amount of gravitational resistance from the floors below involved in said collapse? I assume that it is much higher than 9 or 14 seconds, more like 45ish.No, it took the 14 or so seconds that the building collapsed in. The weight of the floors above the impact has to be taken into account, and this is why the second building to be hit was the first one to fall. The second building was hit much lower that the first, so there was more weight above the damage, causing more strain as the inner structure deteriorated.
Indeed. And if the hijackers had known this: they would have hit lower still.
I think the second tower was also hit more directly... but its been a few months since I last watched it

(December 16, 2009 at 10:34 am)Meatball Wrote: Why is the direction the towers fell even an issue? If this was a massive government (or any other kind) conspiracy, why would they go through such pains to make the towers fall straight down?
What purpose does that serve? To make amateur physicists paranoid?
To deal minimal damage to the population and other buildings as they tried to get the American people on their backs for a war in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc?
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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