RE: Refuting Evolution
June 9, 2013 at 9:32 am
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2013 at 9:49 am by orogenicman.)
orogenicman Wrote:Why would a god create a situation where 1 in 13 have apelike feet? Also, why do you assume that 1 in 13 having apelike feet is evidence that one, and ONLY one god was at work?
Muslim Scholar Wrote:It is the will of God that we are created with diseases, a limited life span, etc.
First of all, that is not an answer to my questions, particularly neither involve disease nor mortality. Secondly, even if my questions did involve disease and mortality, it is a typical religious cop out, a lazy answer, one that offers no evidence but expects us to simply trust in faith. It is lazy for man need not strive to find truth, but it is handed down from above: 'All things are known to God and all man needs to do is apply and follow these laws which are made known by individual revelation from God to man.' Utter friggin bollox.
orogenicman Wrote:Why not one god to create the sinew, one to create the bones, one to create the muscles, one to create the vascular system, one to create the nervous system, etc, etc, etc?
Muslim Scholar Wrote:Because they will need to coordinate with each other before that, the method of communication must be created before them as well.
So you are saying that GOD(S) aren't GODS after all? So much for omnipotence.
orogenicman Wrote:what it is the evidence that ONLY one did so?
Muslim Scholar Wrote:Read my proof of God existence!
I have no intention of reading someone's treatise. A short synopsis will do.
orogenmicman Wrote:if we are created in god's image
Muslim Scholar Wrote:Wrong statement taken from Christianity
We are not created in God's image or similar to him, God is unique and nothing can be similar to him.
First of all, the notion that Man was created in God's image does not originate from Christianity. It came out of Judaism, and likely earlier religious traditions of the region. Secondly, what is unique about your god, and why can nothing be similar. Also, what would that imply?
orogenicman Wrote:I don't just want logic. I want tangible evidence. Got anything like that?
Muslim Scholar Wrote:I already gave you a proof of god existence, as of Why, I also proved that it is impossible to know Why God do things.
Wow, two cop outs at once. I'm impressed. Look, I don't want a treatise. A simple one or two paragraph response will suffice.
Secondly, if it impossible to know why your god does things, then how is it possible that people are always told of his will, and of things that are ascribed to god. When the 2004 earthquake and tsunami struck Banda Aceh, it was the Muslims who claimed that Allah was punishing Man for all his sins. Ironically, they didn't explain what all the animals and forests had done to earn god's wrath. Now, if it is impossible to know why god does things, then what you are telling me is that the Muslims who made those claims were lying and simply made it up. I agree completely that that was the case, but it doesn't make a good argument that the Muslims who made those statements are honest people.
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero