(June 10, 2013 at 10:05 pm)Baalzebutt Wrote:(June 10, 2013 at 10:00 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Sorry to interject... but this has been done to death in a couple of threads dedicated on the topic. There was no sacrifice because we're talking about an omnipotent and omniscient entity. What did he sacrifice if he didn't stay dead? How is it a sacrifice if he knows nothing will be lost in the long run? In short, any entity paying itself for something is by nature meaningless and void of any substance. It's just pure
I couldn't agree more. I'm just curious how he is going to justify it.
Have you ever read about crucifixion? This web site describes it;
http://www.frugalsites.net/jesus/crucifixion.htm
It was a sacrifice for Jesus to have His hands and feet punctured in a way that cause excruciating pain for three hours, have to put pressure on His feet to pull Himself up for every breath, and endure the embarrassment of hanging there naked. How willing would anyone be to do that? Only great love, super human love could do that.
He did this all the while knowing He was innocent of the "crime" of blasphemy because He is God, not just claiming to be.
But you are digressing from the topic of miracles. So let's get back to that. How could Jesus, if He were merely human, rise from the dead? When a Roman soldier thrust a lance through His heart, there is no way He could not be thoroughly dead. There were 500 eyewitnesses that saw Him alive after He rose. (1 Corinthians 15) There has to be something super-human to explain this, because humans cannot do this on their own power.