(June 12, 2013 at 6:38 pm)Pandas United Wrote: You're coming at the position as if apologists have ever said "everything needs a creator but the creator" which is begging the question. If you actually knew the correct premises of the arguments (i.e. everything that begins to exist, or all contingent things need a prior cause) then you'd see that there is no problem in saying God does not need a creator since He is eternal. Thus destroying your "special pleading" argument.
I cannot believe people actually think this is a legitimate objection.
Your argument requires validation of two premises:
1. How do you know the God of the Bible isn't a contingent being?
2. How do you know God is eternal?
