(June 12, 2013 at 7:13 pm)BettyG Wrote: FallentoReason: Pffft! 3 hours?! God is eternal. A finite punishment is drowned out by an infinite life.
BettyG: Jesus was both fully human and fully divine. He was fully capable of feeling excruciating pain.
Ok. So what?
Quote:FallentoReason: Or if you're all-powerful, because nails ain't gonna do crap.
BettyG:They put holes in His hands. Try it and see how it feels.
People have been through waaay worse in torture camps. And, given that Christianity is true, there's most likely the possibility that some of these torture victims were not saved and hence are experiencing an infinite punishment. Poor omnipotent Jesus' experience doesn't even come close to that.
Quote:FallentoReason: And he did this while being all-knowing... knowing that he was going to see the light of day again.
BettyG: How does knowing the future take away the pain one is experiencing NOW?
Because there was no sacrifice! He went into it knowing he won't stay dead. Nothing was lost and he knew this from the beginning.
Quote:FallentoReason: You can't kill a god. That's why there was no sacrifice.
BettyG:I realize it is difficult to comprehend that Jesus could be both fully human and divine at the same time. The Romans killed His human flesh, not His divinity.
What does a bunch of skin and bones mean to an omnimax being?? Even if it was a major loss to such an entity, he resurrected anyways. There was nothing lost, no sacrifice to be had.
Quote:FallentoReason:: So... where's the sacrifice again?
BettyG: I do not see anyone lining up to volunteer to be crucified. Jesus did it of His own free will.
I wonder why he signed up... oh yeah, being omnipotent and omniscient, it was going to be a winning battle from the beginning. A mortal bodyguard taking a bullet for someone is more of a sacrifice than whatever Jesus allegedly did.
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