(June 12, 2013 at 6:38 pm)Pandas United Wrote: If you actually knew the correct premises of the arguments (i.e. everything that begins to exist, or all contingent things need a prior cause) then you'd see that there is no problem in saying God does not need a creator since He is eternal. Thus destroying your "special pleading" argument.
All you've done is make another special pleading argument. Why does the universe have to have a beginning? So Christians can claim that it had to have been created by God.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.