RE: Pineapples disprove Big Bang
June 15, 2013 at 3:01 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2013 at 3:02 am by Cato.)
(June 15, 2013 at 1:29 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: And the basis for claiming that everything that begins to exist has a prior cause is what, besides it being convenient to the desired conclusion?
The only thing we've ever observed beginning to exist is virtual particles, and they begin to exist without a cause. Everything else we've observed 'beginning to exist' was actually a transformation of something that existed previously.
Unless you can prove the universe, or perhaps the multiverse, is not eternal, you're using special pleading. Yes, the universe as we know it had a beginning, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist at all until it expanded. If it didn't exist at all before it expanded, that doesn't mean that it didn't arise from a quantum foam substrate that births universes. Interestingly, QF seems to have the property of necessarily existing. And I didn't just define it as eternal to make an argument, that's what known physics and the math point to.
Yet another asshole, atheist or theist, that has no appreciation for a Planck length.