Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism

[BettyG]

I disagree that "We can only perceive physical things," Love, faith, time, mathematics are real, but not physical.

But love is demonstrable, in that we can feel it, and it's a physical brain state too. Faith is the same. Time and mathematics are conceptual human things that are contingent on us; there's no need for them to be physical.

Meanwhile, you keep trying to say that miracles are at once physical and not testable, and those are binary states. It's one or the other.

God is not inaccessible. We have access through prayer. Faith is a relationship with an loving, all powerful, merciful God, the nth degree of perfection. That is the God I believe in.

And does he answer prayers? Perform miracles in reality? Those things are testable, which is the objection I had to begin with.

I do not follow your saying God is falsifiable. You can know God through reason and logic. Thomas Aquinas gave five demonstrations in favor of the existence of God. Faith is leap, but not an irrational leap. http://www.aquinasonline.com/Topics/5ways.html

Ahem.

I am not saying love is not real, but that it has no atomic mass, length, depth, height, volume. Can you give a cup of love to someone? Same for space, time, math. Other examples of metaphysical reality is studied under the disciplines of philosophy and theology.

I am not saying that miracles are everyday events. I am saying they are things that are provable to be beyond human power. That is what can be tested. The means of determining that and the veracity of the one claiming it are scrutinized thoroughly. Yet that leaves the question of explaining how it happened. I have ruled out statistical probability as a valid means of determining that because David Humes' logic is faulty. I would like others to be aware of the philosophy that is the basis of their assumptions.

God does answer prayers, but He is not our puppet. He gifts us with miracles when He wants to demonstrate His glory. He is in control, not us. We do not always know why. All we can say is that sometimes the answer is "yes', sometimes "no" and sometimes "later."