RE: Russia embraces religious intolerance with draconian blasphemy and anti-gay laws
June 19, 2013 at 7:51 pm
(June 19, 2013 at 6:41 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: How do you know that?
I know that because I have a moral code and you do not follow it.
Quote: We’re not talking about my moral system; we’re talking about atheistic moral systems. What grounds are you using to judge each system by and why did you choose those grounds?
What difference does it make why I decide what I do? I'm not asking you to follow my moral code.
On what grounds does God judge, and why did he choose the rules he chose?
Quote:So what happens if someone’s moral system dictates that it is morally right to kill you, then is it morally right to kill you?
Depends on who you ask, obviously.
Quote:No straw-man here, I accurately pointed out your contradictory behavior. “Everyone is free to choose their favorite color, but those who choose blue are totally wrong because red is a better color!” Quite the arbitrary and therefore meaningless system you have created there.
No straw-man, so here's a straw-man?
1. That's not a contradictory argument. Recognizing the non-existence of objective morality doesn't make it contradictory that I have personal preferences about moral codes. Subjectively, my moral code is better than yours. I have no doubt that, subjectively, you think the same of mine.
2. God's moral code is just as arbitrary and meaningless as mine. Even moreso, as God never justifies or explains the majority of the morals he tells everybody to follow.
I can't convince you that my moral code is better than yours, nor would I bother trying. What I will say is that our moral codes reflect our worldviews, and my worldview does not find genocide, rape, slavery, or murdering children acceptable or justified under any circumstance. Yours does, whether or not you know your own scripture well enough to understand that. It says a lot about who we both are, as human beings.
