RE: Refuting Evolution
June 22, 2013 at 8:02 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2013 at 8:05 am by Muslim Scholar.)
(June 20, 2013 at 8:05 am)Stimbo Wrote: Ok, I'll bite.Where is that proof?
(June 18, 2013 at 5:27 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: The Burak is not half man, he is a creature similar to a horse
What is your objections on that? can you prove its non-existence????
Yes.
Your go.
(June 19, 2013 at 12:38 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:This contradicts with being ok with my previous statement(June 19, 2013 at 5:39 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Of course I should select relevant premises
(June 19, 2013 at 5:39 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: 1- If time is infinite, there must be a time in the past where infinite numbers of seconds passed which is not, so time & universe had a start.
Ignores the finite past/infinite future scenario, but this one is basically okay.
(June 19, 2013 at 5:39 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: 2- As the universe was nothing or something static, something (else) must have started it to be time sensitive, we will call it G.
Physics indicates the universe was never absolutely nothing or something static. The most likely natural causes for the universe are that the Big Bang inflated from a previous hot dense state that went back who knows how long; or that it expanded from a fluctuation in the quantum foam. An interesting thing about quantum foam is how closely it resembles certain descriptions of what a creator god would have to be, such as existing necessarily. It looks like quantum foam can't not exist.
The universe states must be finite as well
So there is a first Universe state
before it, there was no Universe
Quote:The main problem with your conclusions is that natural explanations can fit them as well as supernatural ones. So far, quantum foam fits the bill for G, and has the advantage that it's existence can potentially be tested.Somewhat I agree on it, but what do you call nature must fit my model for the creator
Brane theory might qualify as well, but I'm not as up on it as I am on QF.
Proving God himself is yet to come