(June 26, 2013 at 10:29 pm)BettyG Wrote: Want a list of miracles?
If they have been rigorously tested and confirmed to definitely, without question, the product of your specific God, to the point where no other explanation can ever work to describe the event, yes.
Quote: This site has a few approved ones.
These are approved by the Catholics. Why should I care about Catholics confirming their own biases?
Quote:How are miracles approved?Confirmation bias and a poor understanding of how reality works.
Quote:I can predict the response to this. Someone will say the people weren't really sick. Others will say they are frauds. Others will say they imagined they were cured. All these will have no evidence to back them up. Some will call me names and say I am crazy. No one will give an honest answer to how the event happened or seriously admit they do not know. Everyone here will write it off because they are sure miracles cannot happen, though they have no proof of that.
Nope. All I need to point out is the obvious: there is no evidence that these events are the work of your God.
Quote:The miracle that matters most to me is that Jesus rose from the dead. How do you explain that a dead man came back to life and 500 eyewitnesses saw Him?
There is no evidence this actually happened.
Quote:I predict we will go around in circles again by someone saying Jesus is a myth in spite of what the history books say. Someone will say he wasn't really dead despite having a spear put through his chest into the heart. Someone will say I'm crazy.
I don't know if you're crazy or not. I am even willing to believe that a guy we think of as Jesus really lived. But, he was just a man who died a man's death. There's no proof he was the son of a God no one can prove exists, and no proof he was resurrected. I demand more reliable evidence than eyewitness reports from 2,000 years ago (with no proof that any of these people were actually eyewitnesses, and none of the actually saw him rise from the grave or exit his tomb).
The evidence is far too poor to be of any value.
Quote:If you admitted that miracles happen, you would have to face the issue of the cause. Next thing I know, someone will say effects do not always have causes.
Even if miracles really did happen, it only proves that miracles are possible. It doesn't prove that your God makes them happen. There are thousands of gods in the minds of billions of people. Why should I take your claims more seriously than theirs?[/quote]