(December 26, 2009 at 10:16 pm)theVOID Wrote:(December 26, 2009 at 7:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(December 26, 2009 at 7:07 am)theVOID Wrote: Have you any other statements that can be made about 'spiritual health' that i could not just replace with the less ambiguous terms 'mental well-being' or 'emotional well-being'?
'Mental well being' covers the observed state.
No, that would be emotional well-being that presents it's self physically in noticeable moods, mental health would be harder to determine.
I can spot the mentally imbalanced - can't you?!
(December 26, 2009 at 10:16 pm)theVOID Wrote:Quote:As I've said before, I equate full health in human beings as a state of rightness with God.
And what you consider 'rightness with god' and the mental and emotional state you feel from that connection can be felt equally by any single person from any belief or non-belief as mental and emotional well-being - There is no difference, you have just passed the credit on to god.
I don't think it can.. or at least I know of no method that produces the same effect/ To be fully healthy is obtainable by no other means that I know of.
(December 26, 2009 at 10:16 pm)theVOID Wrote:I have wonderment at the natural world too... but I also have the burning emotion from the consideration of God in addition to that. I can differentiate between healthy spirituality and superstition, and truth and myth.Quote: It's a balance documented in the bible and achievable through faith like it describes.
It's also achievable without any gods or faith, mine comes from my wonderment of the natural world from cosmology to quantum mechanics to evolution and beyond, that beauty of reality is for me absolutely unrivalled by superstitious myth.
(December 26, 2009 at 10:16 pm)theVOID Wrote:Quote: Psychiatry is impotent on the subject ignoring known wisdom as it does. Psychology has it's successes and that's great. I think it's realistic to say tho' that it leaves a lot of ground untouched.
Psychiatry has nothing to do with it, it's only ideally required in circumstances when the individual has a mental or emotional condition that prevents them from living a normal life - Yeah, it's not perfect but it is in the vast majority of cases better than nothing, and it's still a developing health science so the results now don't speak of it's potential in any way. People have tried praying etc instead and it may work to an extent, but i would be willing to bet that it would be no more helpful than a good psychologist.
Praying is hardly relevant I think. What we're talking about is a logical perspective. Personally I wouldn't call say a very bleak outlook on life rational.