(July 1, 2013 at 5:33 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Try and put it simply why you believe morality comes from god, maybe by showing the differences in your argument and say other arguments that say god must exist because of instincts, or god must exist because some people have a morality, or maybe that last one is your argument, it's still unclear to me.
Your argument does sound a lot like one I saw on here not long ago saying god must exist because cats avoid scorpion tails without being taught how.
What do you mean 'try and put it simply'? I've laid it out in a series of syllogisms. It doesn't get simpler than that. It isn't my fault if nobody can be bothered to address those arguments. And why do you keep saying 'come from god'? My claim is that morality requires a god to exist. Water requires H20 in ordre to exist, becuaes water IS h20. But water doesn't 'come from' H20 does it?
1. Morality's instructions are instructions that confer reasons for compliance to any and all to whom they are addressed.
2. Only the instructions of an agent who has control over our interests in an afterlife and wishes to harm those interests should we fail to do as she instructs/favours would be instructions that would confer a resaon to comply to all to whom they are addressed.
3. Morality is an agent of the kind outlined in 2 above.
An agent of that kind is, on common usage, 'a god'.