RE: Atheism and morality
July 3, 2013 at 11:01 am
(This post was last modified: July 3, 2013 at 11:04 am by FallentoReason.)
@Inigo
I lost interest in this thread after you avoided my post somewhere at the beginning... but I can't help to point out a crucial mistake of yours. The common theme that I'm picking up on is that you claim that [objective] morals "instruct". Saying that something *is* wrong doesn't mean one *ought* not to do it. The former is merely a statement, an observation, an opinion while the latter is a command. Your job is to take us through the philosophical minefield to get from A to B:
There is a huge void between the two which you have just been assuming to be bridged for the last 15 pages. Any moral ethics 101 professor would strongly disagree with you.
Sounds like you're an indirect realist...
I lost interest in this thread after you avoided my post somewhere at the beginning... but I can't help to point out a crucial mistake of yours. The common theme that I'm picking up on is that you claim that [objective] morals "instruct". Saying that something *is* wrong doesn't mean one *ought* not to do it. The former is merely a statement, an observation, an opinion while the latter is a command. Your job is to take us through the philosophical minefield to get from A to B:
- Action x is morally wrong
- Action x ought not to be performed
There is a huge void between the two which you have just been assuming to be bridged for the last 15 pages. Any moral ethics 101 professor would strongly disagree with you.
(July 3, 2013 at 10:56 am)Rahul Wrote:(July 3, 2013 at 10:51 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Which, ironically, takes all the altruism away from your percieved altruistic nature.
Yeah. Well the definition of altruism is still being bickered about in a lot of quarters. Technically a fly landing in a spider web for a spider to eat is altruistic according to the most common definition.
I consider helping someone without receiving anything tangible in return to be altruistic.
I don't consider a "feeling" tangible in that sense.
Sounds like you're an indirect realist...
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle