RE: Atheism and morality
July 3, 2013 at 8:40 pm
(This post was last modified: July 3, 2013 at 8:48 pm by simplexity.)
(July 3, 2013 at 8:31 pm)Inigo Wrote: Well, that instruction lacks inescapable rational authority.So...? There is no inescapable rational authority. There is a relative morality based on the whole.
Quote:You only have reason to comply with that instruction if you happen to want to. if you stop caring, then you lack any real reason to comply.Yep...
Quote:This is an enormous difference between your instructions and the instructions of morality. They are not one and the same.That's because the latter doesn't exist.
Quote:IF atheism is true, then the only instructions that really exist are yours and those of other people. But none of those instructions have inescapable rational authority. None of them, then, can be one and the same as the instructions of morality. Consequently, if atheism is true moral instructions do not really exist. They appear to exist, but appearing to exist and existing are different.Yes. They can't and there is no absolute moral authority, because absolutes by definition are not relatively moral.
(July 3, 2013 at 8:36 pm)Inigo Wrote: Hence, our concept of morality is of something that can only be a god.There is nothing in my mind that gives me the sense of an absolute morality. All of my senses together and their outputs form my morality. I get a feeling from the hard-wiring in my brain or some other input, intelligent or not. I am 'free' to either act on it consciously or no. The whole free thing here is maybe not really free but that is irrelevant. You have given no such proof, just the continuous statement that our senses are from an absolute morality, which is not true, because there is evidence otherwise.
You might prefer that this was not the case. YOu might prefer that morality not turn out to be a god (or the instructions of a god if one prefers). Fine. But unfortunately that's the only way there would be something answering to our concept.