RE: Atheism and morality
July 4, 2013 at 2:43 pm
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2013 at 2:44 pm by Inigo.)
(July 4, 2013 at 1:52 pm)max-greece Wrote: Frankly having seen your arguments they carry so much that smacks of religion I have huge doubts you were ever atheist. You are far to ready to allocate good things to God and only evil to man.
The idea that people only behave morally through threat of punishment from God is a nauseating one that permeates Christianity.
No, I was an atheist and no longer qualify. I am someone who follows reason wherever it leads, even if I don't like it and even if it means I can no longer be in the club. I suggest that you entertain these fantasies about me so that you do not have to take seriously my arguments. That, of course, is to engage in the ad hominem fallacy. I am not a Christian and never was, but it wouldn't matter anyway, the validity of my conclusions is unaffected.
You then, once again, attribute to me a view that I have never defended. I have never argued that one needs to believe in god or divine punishments in order to be motivated to behave morally.
You do not refute my arguments by attributing to me an entirely different and implausible view and then attacking that view.
(July 4, 2013 at 2:37 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(July 4, 2013 at 2:31 pm)Inigo Wrote: If you say 'morals improved' you assume an independent moral standard - a moral standard that is independent of one's society and against which one's societies' norms are assessed.
No, I am judging it by the more advanced modern morals of a society that has evolved.
Do try to keep up.
You're fired.
