"If you say 'morals improved' you assume an independent moral standard - a moral standard that is independent of one's society and against which one's societies' norms are assessed. In other words, we morally assess our - and past - societies' beliefs and actions.
There is, for instance, nothing remotely incoherent in wondering whether what your society approves of is really right. On your view that thought would be incoherent. It ins't. Your view is false.
Now, that's a headshot. Your view is false. I just shot it dead. I can shoot it through the head some more, if you like. But kindly recognise that it has just been shot dead and stop bringing it to the party."
This is entirely wrong. You haven't shot anything dead I am afraid. You may have fired but you missed by a country mile.
We can assess the morality of any individual, group, country or party throughout history in comparison to a number of factors which might include our own current morality, the morality of others at the time, the morality of that same individual, group, country or party at other periods of time and so on and so forth.
There is nothing incoherent in wondering if what our society approves of is really right for anyone - using entirely relative morality. I have little doubt that future generations will hold radically different moral positions on a whole host of issues and that our morality will be deemed inadequate in comparison.
No problem with this position. Mere statements on your part will not change that.
There is, for instance, nothing remotely incoherent in wondering whether what your society approves of is really right. On your view that thought would be incoherent. It ins't. Your view is false.
Now, that's a headshot. Your view is false. I just shot it dead. I can shoot it through the head some more, if you like. But kindly recognise that it has just been shot dead and stop bringing it to the party."
This is entirely wrong. You haven't shot anything dead I am afraid. You may have fired but you missed by a country mile.
We can assess the morality of any individual, group, country or party throughout history in comparison to a number of factors which might include our own current morality, the morality of others at the time, the morality of that same individual, group, country or party at other periods of time and so on and so forth.
There is nothing incoherent in wondering if what our society approves of is really right for anyone - using entirely relative morality. I have little doubt that future generations will hold radically different moral positions on a whole host of issues and that our morality will be deemed inadequate in comparison.
No problem with this position. Mere statements on your part will not change that.
