RE: Proving a negative
July 5, 2013 at 10:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 5, 2013 at 11:01 pm by genkaus.)
(July 5, 2013 at 10:10 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: You're not understanding me.
If someone close to me has cancer. Every single claim on earth would be worth checking out, starting with the one with the most evidence. Because a life is on the line. If I own stocks stock tip would be worth checking out cos my money is on the line.
I already said I'm not dismissing the god claim just because of lack of evidence, it also in no way affects anyone.
Yup i proved a negative and got my life back. And yea I wasn't obligated to.
Slim or doesn't at all affect our reality, like i said, haven't given much thought to it. So really have next to nothing to contribute to this speculation.
What world are you living in? Here in reality the god-claim has had a most deep and profound effect on all our lives. You said it yourself that you got your life back after proving a negative.
(July 5, 2013 at 10:10 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: As for whether or not you think i am obligated. I don't know, I said i wasn't and that i'm not going to. But now you're trying to almost guilt me or something into doing this. Why would you do that if you don't think i'm obligated to? Why don't you explore this if this interests you? Why do we all have to feel like we should take up this challenge as well? Isn't that obligation?
I do explore it, since it interests me and I do not consider anyone obligated to do so nor do I expect it of anyone.
However, what I do find most annoying is that whenever anyone raises the question of "disproving god", scores of other atheists rise up in arms crying "but we are not obligated to" - completely missing the point that this isn't question of obligation. Every discussion I've seen on the topic of "proving a negative" has been diverted to a discussion about how the burden of proof doesn't work that way - regardless of it being the original issue.
(July 5, 2013 at 10:33 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: ok, so you do believe in treating claims differently. And that some claims are not worth it.
So now what we differ in is only our criteria? Which is you think the god claim is worth it, and I don't. Correct?
What affects people's lives, is not whether or not a god exists, it's whether or not their religion is true. And I do spend time disproving religion, as evidenced by my presence in this forum, and by calling myself and atheist. I would spend time disproving specific gods as well, like the christian and muslim gods.
Excellent. Carry on, then.
(July 5, 2013 at 10:05 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:(July 5, 2013 at 9:47 pm)genkaus Wrote: The same logic applies to god as well. Just because one doesn't have to is no reason why one shouldn't try to.
Blah, blah, blah, here you go:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-19744.html
Your point?
