Atheism and morality

[simplexity]

Basically, it involves confusing what morality tells us to do and be (normative ethics) with what morality is, in itself. It is a set of ideas, stemming from the mind, having to do with 'right' and 'wrong'.

I have already told you what morality is in itself.

It is the set of of thought patterns generated from the mind which differentiate 'right' from 'wrong'(having to do with self suffering - and it follows from this self suffering that is has to do with others suffering.) We can also have a concept of these thought patterns, so we have a concept of our own morality.

I know you will just say, 'well this view of morality is still only a 'concept' so this is not really what morality is'. NANANA. This IS what morality is, a set of thought patterns, and thought patterns are real things. They exist as physical patterns.

But, anyway, rather than pointing out your fallacious inferences I'll just point out that a concept can't issue an instruction, much less an instruction that has inescapable rational authority.

I gave you examples of how internal moralities are not concepts and do issue instructions, through a sort of neural 'blackmail' system.
Once again you are just asserting that morality gives inescapable rational instructions, which is baseless. And you are asserting there is only one morality. Again - baseless.

So your view is, er, silly.

My view would be silly, I agree, if your baseless assertions were true.

Morality has to be something that issues instructions, because that's what it does. And it has to be something capable of lending those instructions inescapable rational authority, because that's what moral instructions have.

More baseless assertions. My views are not fallacious. You can assert it if you wish...

The point is, there is evidence pointing in the direction of what I am arguing. And there is no scientific evidence pointing elsewhere. All of the evidence fits the current local mind theory(see experiments regarding removing parts of the brain), that we all have our own internal morality, and that our morality is affected by others. If there were even a shred of evidence of this ONE external morality that instructs everyone, then I might have reason to suspect it could be true.

And even if your premises are true(highly doubtful let alone unrealistic) and a god exists that is giving moral instructions, it does not mean they are inescapably moral, just that a powerful being is giving them.