RE: Atheism and morality
July 6, 2013 at 4:07 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm by Angrboda.)
(July 6, 2013 at 3:43 pm)Inigo Wrote: I assume you cannot find a flaw in my reasoning or assumptions and so this is what you're driven to.Once again, your assumption is incorrect.
The point of my posting that was the date on which it was posted, prefiguring the substance of your arguments.
Regardless, it appears that you have no takers on the first of your two syllogisms. However, since your argument requires both syllogisms to be true, perhaps you can set aside the dispute over the acceptability of the first syllogism and speak to why you think the second syllogism is valid and compelling. Why, if morality is instructions from some unspecified agent, does your second syllogism demonstrate the required characteristics that agent has to have in order for their instructions to qualify as morality? You've suggested that the Euthyphro dilemma might be an obstacle to your account, but beyond that, it's not clear to me that your second syllogism works either. While it's certainly possibly true that the reality that I might suffer for eternity for having sexual relations with another woman provides me a compelling reason not to have sexual relations with another woman, it's unclear how such infinite punishment in the afterlife yields an instruction that is morally compelling rather than simply compelling due to the nature of my self interests in a purely instrumental and non-moral way? (As a suggestion, you might create a separate thread, to allow the current debate over the first syllogism to continue its present trajectory.)
Regarding the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy definition, this is one case where quoting an authority on the usage of the term is fallacious and invalid, as the current debate is about the very nature and substance of morality, so appealing to what a group of people think is the case can be seen as both an appeal to consensus, as well as begging the question.
(Besides, much as I find the SEP useful, there are many annoying peculiarities about the composition of entries in the SEP, and if I have an option, I look elsewhere.)