RE: Atheism and morality
July 6, 2013 at 4:44 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2013 at 4:45 pm by Inigo.)
(July 6, 2013 at 4:24 pm)NoahsFarce Wrote: No, your moral actions do not need reason other than that's just the what you feel is the right thing. Does this mean it's okay for you to rape? There's no magic answer to that. But know that there are consequences to that action regardless of whether or not you feel is wrong.
So what am I really trying to say? You're reading into it way too much. That's okay though, people argue over morality all the time.
There seems to be a set of universal morals, though the paths taken to reach those morals differ. Does that mean there is a golden set of morals that has been encoded by some being? Not necessarily. Human beings are a social species. For a social species to thrive, they need to be kind to one another overall. The problem currently is, we have not gone past the tribal stage. We are most loyal to those immediately around us. We are separated by various groups, particularly religious groups. But overall, within those groups, people are kind to one another.
Back to the rape topic. While rape might individually benefit you, it does not benefit humans as whole. It is detrimental to the victim's mental health. Perhaps you love to kill babies? Sure, might be fine for you, but that is detrimental to the survivability of our species. If the majority were killing babies, our species would die off.
Too long didn't read? Morals are useful from an evolutionary standpoint for those beings whose minds can sort through such thoughts and actions. No god needed.
Jack really loves disembowelling prostitutes. He bloody loves it! He's got terminal cancer and is going to die next week. He decides he'll disembowel one last prostitute for old time's sake.
If you think he has reason not to disembowel a prostitute but do not believe there is any god or afterlife kindly explain.
(July 6, 2013 at 4:29 pm)genkaus Wrote:(July 6, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Inigo Wrote: Here's my impression of you"
'Morality doesn't favour or instruct, it favours and instructs.
Morality is an idea. Ideas can't favour or instruct. But morality doesn't. It favours and instructs. It doesn't favour or instruct. It is an idea. ideas can't favour or instruct. So morality doesn't. It is a code of instructions. But those aren't instructions. They are instructions. Not instructions. Instructions. Not instructions.
I'm afraid I can't argue with someone this stupid, so byeeee
Bad, bad impression. All you do is show the utter lack of comprehension of the extremely simple logic. Let me simplyfy.
"Morality is an idea. Ideas don't favor or instruct. Thus, morality doesn't favor or instruct. It is a code of instruction. Being a code of instructions doesn't mean it instructs. It simply tells you what it is, not what it does."
I think my impression was spot on.