Atheism and morality

[Inigo]

Then I still don't know what your argument even is, I thought you were saying god must exist because of normative morality, I don't care about the in depth ins and outs of morality enough to care that I've researched into it a lot so I won't pretend I have, but from what I can gather normative morality is morality which every reasonable person should be expected to follow.

I thought your argument was normative morality requires there to be a true right or wrong, something which no human would know of since we can't decide that so a god must decide.

But I've made the argument lots of times and it bears no resemblance to the arguments you are attributing to me. For instance, I have never said 'god must exist'. I am saying that morality presupposes a god. If I am correct one could run one of either of these arguments:

1. Morality requires a god
2. Morality exists
3. A god exists

or

1. Morality requires a god
2. No gods exist
3. Morality does not exist.

Personally, I think the first argument is overall more plausible than the second. But note, the claim that morality requires a god is strictly compatible with atheism. So at no point have I argued that a god must exist.

Re 'normative' morality. A 'normative' moral theory is a theory about what morality instructs us to do and be. It is NOT a theory about what morality 'is'.

A 'metaethical' theory is a theory about what morality 'is'.

I am arguing for a metaethical position known as a divine command theory.

I am saying nothing about which acts are right and which ones wrong. That's a matter a normative moral theory tackles. Divine command theory is compatible with all normative moral theories.