(July 10, 2013 at 10:55 pm)BettyG Wrote: What I dislike about atheism is that it requires one to reject reality.
Please, proceed to tell us more about the magic you believe actually happens.
Quote:You have to deny history.
You would need to provide evidence of miracles in history. From non-biased accounts, for which there can be no better explanation.
Quote:You have to deny that God acts in this world today.
No, you have to demonstrate it.
Quote:You have to deny that science has limits.
When you remember that you just posted this on a device forged from scientific understanding, powered by a natural force that science discovered and learned the rules thereof, and transmitted through yet a third technology developed through science, all the while being alive because medical and agricultural science allows you to stay healthy and well fed, you will understand how ungrateful and myopic you sound when you dismiss science because it doesn't know everything yet.
Quote:You have to have faith that you cannot know truth.
No no, you have to be honest enough not to profess absolute certainty in everything. You know what that's called? Keeping an open goddamn mind.
Quote: You have to believe everything is relative.
Protip: don't tell us what we believe. We'll tell you.
Quote: You have to start with the assumption of skepticism of things that are common sense and logical.
You demonstrated that these things are logical... how?
Quote: You have to believe that this incredibly complex universe is just an accident. This is totally irrational.
Which is why nobody but Mr. Strawman believes that.
Quote: It is as if atheists start with a conclusion that God does not exist, and then work backward to make reality fit their conclusion.
Sorry, lemme just go and fix my irony meter. It just exploded. People got hurt.
Quote:If Jesus did not exist, there would have been multiple people would would object and set the record straight.
Do you often see historical records espousing on all the things that weren't present at any given time? "The year is 03 AD, and there aren't any dragons. Nor are there leprechauns. End communication."
On the flipside, what we don't see, are any historical records that noted that Jesus did exist...
Quote:The early Church fathers like Irenaeus loved to stamp out heresy. They would have jumped on this with a vengeance. This "Jesus is a myth" myth started in the 1800's. It is not like the Christians didn't have enough time to refute Christ's existence. It would have been refuted by the second century.
Yes, you can always rely on the credulous to refute the stories that are only aiding their cause. That's absolutely true.
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