What The Bible Really Teaches About Hell

[Kyuuketsuki]

Sigh! I haven't missed anything religious ... as such I cannot be a sinner!

I wasn't talking about religion. Fuck religion.

Whilst atheism is not a religion, it is inherently a religion oriented POV, you're in a atheism community, a forum specifically oriented towards (and called) "Religion" and you weren't talking about religion? I see.

That's true but not quite the point I am trying to get across to our friend Daystar ... I still, given that sins are by definition religious offences, maintain that it is impossible for an atheist to sin.

I wasn't talking about religious offenses. I was trying to show you the practical meaning of the word sin so you could drop the religious bullshit.

Sin means to simply miss the mark set by anyone. Your boss, your son, secular law, you yourself.

No, whilst I accept there is a wider definition of "sin" its primary definition (& common usage) is religious.

From Miriam-Webster:
1 a: an offense against religious or moral law b: an action that is or is felt to be highly reprehensible <it's a sin to waste food> c: an often serious shortcoming : fault
2 a: transgression of the law of God b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from God

Indeed outside of the religious meaning the word "sin" seems to be largely used in a reverse fashion as in, "so good it's a sin" so, as far as I'm concerned, the rest of the weak remarks you make in your post are largely irrelevant.

The problem you have is that you don't believe in God so you don't acknowledge the mark he has set directly, but nonetheless you sin.

Talk about a loaded remark ... you sure you're not talking from a religious POV? I don't acknowledge YOUR god (or anyone else's AT ALL) so no I do not sin.

You are a sinner. No matter how you look at it. It is interesting that most Atheists embrace that if not literally then metaphorically. They, uh, metaphorically thrust themselves in its general direction mockingly.

I believe your argument is inherently flawed so no, I don't sin

A somewhat distasteful but nevertheless amusing demonstration.

Or maybe just a stupid one?

Kyu