(July 19, 2013 at 10:27 am)Psykhronic Wrote: By your logic infertile couples still should not be able to marry, because under normal circumstances they cannot bear children - their "normal" is infertility.Nope, for as you probably know, infertility was in the past, considered to be a valid excuse to divorce a spouse. AS you probably know, The Church of England has indeed severed its connections with Rome solely for the purpose of it. Indeed, this shows that marriage is there to provide people with an environment under which they bring forth children, sanctioned by public eyes.
Also, marriage is and has changed time and time again and has varied across cultures and localities. Here in the US, commonly you marry someone you love to solidify a bond.
The fact that one of the spouses turns out to be infertile doesn't change that fact.
They are still applicable to the institution, for if they really do want children, they still adopt one and propagate the said institution by raising children within it, even if it's biologically not their child.
As for gays, they cannot propagate the institution for they do not fit the said standards, they are unable to procreate by default, and are known by the public to be unable to do so, and therefore, not applicable to the said institution of family that is built on marriage.
So please stop using the argument of infertile couples. Infertility is a tragedy for anyone by whom it's stricken by, and they also don't serve as a leverage for your arguments by any shot.
Marriage has not changed. As the current insitution of marriage in the US didn't come from nowhere(it was obviously brought by the immigrants, and of course, it was existent amongst the natives of the land, again under the same context of forming a family), it's safe to state that it's bears the same objectives of marriage anywhere else in the world, friend.
Namely, bearing children, and creating an enviroment for those children to grow, the family, therebye creating new generations, something that is required for human existence, don't you think?
However the marriage of gays is nothing more than a farce, enacted in order to normalize homosexuality within public.
This is why gays and their supporters actually put so much value on it, nothing else.
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