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An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 1:37 pm
So I'm finally of the age to vote now, only I don't know who to vote for, because I can't seem to get a straight answer on what stance each candidate takes on certain issues. I was wondering if somebody could please, briefly describe, in an unbiased, factual way, what Barack Obama's and Mitt Romney's stances are on current issues?
I realize that might be a hell of a lot to write out, and it might be a little pretentious of me to ask for it here. But I have had a rather difficult time finding any source that will give me a straight description of their stances without editorials or ad-hominem comments. If it is a lot to write out, maybe you know of a page that can tell me? If so, please post a link to it.
Answers I am looking for:
"Barack Obama believes this on current issues:"
"Mitt Romney believes this on current issues:"
Answers I am NOT looking for:
"Barack Obama is a communist who wants to steal our money, bla bla bla."
"Mitt Romney is a theocrat who wants to destroy separation of church and state, bla bla bla."
I greatly appreciate any help you guys can give me.
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 1:49 pm
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 1:57 pm
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They are both politicians, they'll say one thing and do another. They have both now been leaders and had a chance to at least try to make some changes, so I'd look at what they've done so far and whether that squares with their past promises, rather than what they promise to do in the future or what they say they believe.
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Also, they are pretty much the same person.
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 2:04 pm
(July 8, 2012 at 1:57 pm)Stue Denim Wrote: They are both politicians, they'll say one thing and do another. They have both now been leaders and had a chance to at least try to make some changes, so I'd look at what they've done so far and whether that squares with their past promises, rather than what they promise to do in the future or say they believe.
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Also, they are pretty much the same person.
Utter rubbish. Read the civil liberties link i put on. Then look at their economic ideas, like the $447bn jobs bill Congress wouldn't pass, they didnt like the idea of massive employment. Then look at what Romney wants to do......... cut taxes, shock. Cut jobs, cut funding...... cut cut cut cut, and it will miraculously create jobs. Oh wait no, it'll shrink economy, increase unemployment and make the rich, richer.
Totally different no matter what your dog awful press says.
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 2:50 pm
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 2:51 pm
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Quote:I greatly appreciate any help you guys can give me.
Stay away from FIX NEWS.
When the party platforms come out after the conventions read them and then make up your mind. Remember, these documents largely say what the candidate wants them to say because the candidate has the majority of the delegates to said convention.
It's July. You have plenty of time to decide.
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 5:18 pm
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Whilst I agree with Synackaon's evaluation, I think it says quite a lot when a president either doesn't make any attempt to undo obvious mistakes made by previous presidents (e.g. Patriot Act, TSA), or reneges on a campaign promise (e.g. closing Gitmo). This inaction doesn't put them in a positive light when it comes to civil rights.
That said, if I had the choice between Obama and Romney, and I had to choose one, I'd pick Obama. I just wouldn't like doing it.
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 8, 2012 at 7:25 pm
The only 2 people better then Obama for civil liberties were, no surprise, Ron Paul(although some stances are sketchy for a so called libertarian), and even better, Gary Johnson.
Real Republicans should vote for Gary Johnson, not Romney. He's a good candidate as whilst you don't have to like his economics, you can't find much fault with his civil liberty ideas....... and i'm fairly sure Republicans always used to run on this topic back when they were a decent party.
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RE: An UNBIASED summary of the candidates' views?
July 9, 2012 at 1:14 am
IF I was an American,my current attitude would be the same as my attitude to the two major Australian parties;'A pox on both your houses'.
I would never have voted for Obama the first time. His only qualification for the job was that he was not George W Bush.Looking from the outside, Obama seems to have been the most inept US president since Jimmy Carter. Unlike Carter, I can seen no driving ideology or moral core,only expediency.
IF I was an American I would not be voting in the coming election.
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