Blind faith and evolution

[Fidel_Castronaut]

ok lets try this,

'do good unto others' this is a good idea for society, well then you have to classify yourself as a christian what happens then? you adopt all the other beliefs right because they sucked you in with one thing you agree with, what fools you would say, i would say that too.

You're inferring the golden rule as an example of theistic exclusivism?

The golden rule is not exclusive to and particular religion, or indeed religion per se. Do we have to start another thread that looks into the evolution of morality through the evolution of societies?

No, I already adopt the idea of 'do unto others', but I'm not a Christian, nor a theist of any sort.

'i dont believe in a god until there is proof' this is a rational idea so now you have to classify yourself as an atheist and there are many ideas attached to it no different than religion...

STOP RIGHT THERE.

What is 'attached' to atheism? Where? How? Give examples and show how they support your argument.

it's not that I disagree with either of those statements but why do the sheep of atheism need to call themselves 'atheist'? it's a title, it's a group and there are many ideas attached to it...most are just anti-ideas of religions ideas

I'm dismissing all of this and putting it down to a personal bias you have against either:

1. 'Labels', be they philosophical, ontological, meta-physical or whatever
2. Atheists.

Basically what you're saying is "I define atheism as X and thus every atheist now fits my specific bespoke category and can be straw-manned at will"

"the god delusion" is one example of this and it is no different than the cults of religion

Why can't you just say I am a person who does not believe in god and my definition of reality is progressing as i learn and grow? why do you have to add yourself to the 'atheist' cult?

An atheist cult?

Right, I'm off to bed. Someone else will have to take over and show you now rediculous that concept really is. Atheists happen to agree on a lot of things, but they also happen to disagree on a lot too.

lurk on this forum and others and you'll see atheists at each others throats on almost every subject imaginable, even religion. Why? Because the only thing that we in common, that is synonomous to the label which you define as a 'cult', is a lack of belief in a god or gods. I know exactly where you're trying to steer this debate. You'll proffer an idea that 'all atheists believe in evolution thus atheism = evolutionist". Well, like I said, that's nonsense for so many reasons, and I'm sure come this time tomorrow this thread will have multiple pages explaining why.

Night.