Everything exists

[TruthWorthy]

I was going to make extreme fun of you then I went back and read an old discussion and have to agree with you. Ok, so it is a tautology that "every thing exists" but that does not mean that everything is real or ontologically existant.

My understanding of imagined reality:
Real in relation as experienced by the person, is real in that persons subjective experience. Like they say about a person's reality: "that reality is as real to them as reality can be"; this, of course, doesn't mean that reality has any influence over others who have different views of reality.

We did have a thread where there was much talk about the difference between "real" and "exist" although I don't think that anybody expressed an idea related to language not being able to express thoughts about something that does not exist. I am sure you will be enlightened if you check out this thread:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-1460.htm...Real+exist

This is the main issue which you dodged well (you didn't crash into). What you noticed was the fact that there are ambiguous and concrete (for any word) "realities". A thought exists, though it isn't tangible, a cloud exists and consists (obviously) of tangible particles.

Ok admittedly much of it is just us goofing around but there is some good stuff in there starting with Arcanus' question.

Cheers,
Rhizo

No worries, I sort of addressed the issues on 'every thing exists' in another thread called "god exists" <why is this a relevant argument?; My point is that the statement must be true to the ambiguous sense only and actually, by implication (I think) is stating "god (exists) exists". Never mind that for now though, I'm just glad that someone got the idea "everything exists".

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Nothing is a paradox, true. But if there is no Martian 2 feet in front of me: it is not to state that there is nothing in front of me. Essentially: everything can exist, but something always does.

Thanks Saerules, I'm trying to get that right myself. Saying that nothing's there already implies that there is a there so there's a place with no objects? exactly there's is something there!
Conversely, saying there's a martian 2 feet in front of you, does exist as an idea that you have.

Thanks for the replies