are you left,right or centre?

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Excellent dabate, I went to a public school.

Just look at China.

Governments don't have the power on truth, and they never should. If schools were run as private organisations, there would be a lot of competition to have the best results, since the customers are looking for the best schools to send their children. Plus, the better the results, the more likely the customers will pay more to get their child to attend.

I think if you were to give an example you should keep it to our sphere of understanding, in regards to the China comparison.

The thing with private schools is a majority of them are religious based, well they are here in Australia. I still don't understand why you would not want a democratiaclly 'elected' government in control (in a loose sense). If the government is elected by the majority, should not that government be allowed to impose some of their ideas?

The government shouldn't have any say over how parents decide to bring up their children, as long as they don't violate human rights. A parent has as much right to homeschool their child as another has to pay for the very best education.

The problem with society though is many people do violate human rights. History has shown and continues to show that people must be governed and rules must be imposed to sustain civil order, in regards to the western world and the democracies we live under.

So a parent has the right to brainwash their children, or condition them however they please, so long as it doesn't interfere with 'human rights'? Do parents have the right to not educate their children at all as well then? Or are we holding a double standard in this case, where the best is allowed, and a little is allowed, but nothing is not allowed?

What are 'human rights' in this case? Parents do not own a child... they are the assigned guardians for the child until the child no longer needs such a guardian, or the guardians have failed in their duty. To suggest that a child is legal property of another (and is forced to obey that other as a result of this ownership) is literally slavery, unless a child is not a person? A guardian's purpose is to keep those they are assigned to safe whilst they do what they do, and to provide counsel to the assigned individual so that unnecessary danger can be avoided (assignee willing).

I do not see why a person should be the property of anything or anyone. Can you explain to me why slavery should be supported in any case at all?

Interesting, but understandable considering your age (no disrespect intended). All I mean is you are at a very interesting point in your life, as you are becoming an adult.

Sae,

To keep within your extreme logic, should a parent be allowed to leave a newborn baby in a dumpster? It's not their property, they shouldn't be responsible for it. Right?

Talking about extreme logic, I think you are fighting fire with fire here. Of course when a person is a baby, they need looking after, but when they reach a certain point they become their own person and deserve recognition as such.

As I've argued, it depends on the person. For me, I would have preferred to attend a school that focussed on my strengths. This is the problem with a mandatory education; the only plausible way of doing it is with public school, and public school is useless for a few reasons:

1) The intelligent children are held back as the rest of the class "catches up".
2) The less intelligent children find themselves less interested in various parts of their education, and this lack of interest leads to more of (1).
3) Every child is taught the same stuff, regardless of their abilities. You learn math, english, french, history, geography and aren't able to do anything about it till much later.

This I can understand. Certain parts of the system need looking at, but in my scholl we had levels. i.e Lower, middle, and upper depending on the childs ability.

But, in the end, considering the number of children in schools and the wide varience in beliefs, what is the right answer in terms of the right type of school?