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Free will Argument against Divine Providence
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RE: Free will Argument against Divine Providence
(July 21, 2013 at 8:54 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: I'm talking about the concept of free will referred to as libertarian, not the political ideology hence the parenthesis with the word 'libertarian' in the first premise.

Your excuse is to make 'libertarian' and 'free will' synonymous. This means your conclusion would read like this:

" C) Therefore, in the worldview of an Abrahamic monotheist there can be no certainty regarding the 'free will' concept of free will's truth at any given point. "

Sounds a bit silly now, doesn't it?

(July 27, 2013 at 2:08 am)Michael Schubert Wrote: Yes, I agree that God does not exist. But I think you're supposed to put your disbelief aside and only judge the logic within the strictures of the argument.

Logic without reason? I may as well sit around at night and do arithmetic with only the aid of my toes (basis for the decimal system????).

Logic is a tool, nothing more. If one of the premises is false, then the conclusion based on the argument can be dismissed (note: the conclusioon may still be true, but not for the reasons given if a premis is untrue).
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RE: Free will Argument against Divine Providence - by Cato - July 27, 2013 at 2:14 am

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