(July 27, 2013 at 2:14 am)cato123 Wrote: Your excuse is to make 'libertarian' and 'free will' synonymous.
Brakes. I didn't do that at all. I specifically said referred to the libertarian concept of free will. I did not make then synonymous. It's but a description.
Quote:This means your conclusion would read like this:
" C) Therefore, in the worldview of an Abrahamic monotheist there can be no certainty regarding the 'free will' concept of free will's truth at any given point. "
Sounds a bit silly now, doesn't it?
Your misunderstood objection sounds silly, yes.
Quote:(July 27, 2013 at 2:08 am)Michael Schubert Wrote: Yes, I agree that God does not exist. But I think you're supposed to put your disbelief aside and only judge the logic within the strictures of the argument.
Logic without reason? I may as well sit around at night and do arithmetic with only the aid of my toes (basis for the decimal system????).
Logic is a tool, nothing more. If one of the premises is false, then the conclusion based on the argument can be dismissed (note: the conclusioon may still be true, but not for the reasons given if a premis is untrue).
It isn't to expected of you to actually accept that a god exists; you're being dense. It's just an application of reductio ad absurdum. It only weakens the position of the believer.