(July 28, 2013 at 4:57 am)genkaus Wrote:(July 27, 2013 at 11:33 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: There's actually a fairly well-known concept that human free will cannot exist within the framework of an omniscient being. Attend:
P1 - Any Being who can reasonably be considered God will, by definition, have to be omniscient, omnipotent, and omnicreative.
P2 - Omniscience, by definition, requires that there is nothing unknown or unknowable to God.
P3 - From (P2), God knows in advance the actions you will take.
P4 - From (P2), God created the actions you take and the choices which lead to those actions.
P5 - From (P4), there is no action you can undertake and no choice for which you can opt which has not been pre-created for you.
C - Since (P5) you are constrained to act in pre-determined ways by God, you have no free will.
Boru
P4 does not follow from P2. Being omniscient does not imply that god created your actions or your choices. Therefore, P4, P5 and therefore the conclusion would be invalid.
My mistake - it follows from P1, God being 'omnicreative'. However, from P2 we can infer that, since God knows (and always has known) the choices you make, you can't be a free agent in any meaningful sense of the term.
Boru
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