RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
July 31, 2013 at 12:51 am
(This post was last modified: July 31, 2013 at 1:00 am by Undeceived.)
(July 30, 2013 at 2:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It seems that the whole "jesus" as a personification of Christos did not begin until later in the second century when, all of a sudden Greco- Roman writers like Celsus and Lucian of Samosata did start to take notice of this rather silly cult.
What about this bone box from 63 AD mentioning Jesus? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...suary.html
The writing of Acts is also dated to the 60s AD, including mentions of Jesus.
Or just answer this question: If Jesus did not exist, where did Christianity come from? How could Paul write, "But we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles" (1 Cor. 1:23)?
(July 30, 2013 at 2:55 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Undeceived, clearly you have no concept of how important a contemporary is in determining whether or not someone or something existed.The earliest histories of Alexander the Great were written by Arrian and Plutarch more than four hundred years after his death. Plato was born in 427 BC-- his earliest manuscript is dated 895 BC. Both are considered to be generally trustworthy. In fact, if you researched, you’d be hard-pressed to find originals of most historical documents. Other examples, first date is time written and second is earliest copy:
Herodotus (History) 480 - 425 BC _____900 AD
Thucydides (History) 460 - 400 BC ____900 AD
Aristotle (Philosopher) 384 - 322 BC ___1,100 AD
Caesar (History) 100 - 44 BC _________900 AD
Now compare those to Jesus. We have physical Gospel quotes from as early as three decades after Jesus' death.