Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism

[Esquilax]

Dictionary.com defines supernatural as "unexplainable by natural law or phenomena". Since our natural laws did not apply to the catalyst, that would make it supernatural in every sense of the word. Can you provide a better definition?

I don't need to: yours will do quite well. Remember when I said this:

You've got no basis for assuming a supernatural source to anything we don't currently understand, that's just an argument from ignorance. And it will fail you in the end; science isn't likely to stop discovering the real answers to things just because you'd like it to be god.

Well, barring a few language errors, you've cheerfully admitted that you'll fall into that trap, because things that aren't explainable by natural law or phenomena don't stay that way for long. Just as lightning was from Zeus, and the waves were from Poseidon, and rainbows were from God, this question of the causes of our current universe won't remain supernatural according to your definition forever. In time, it will become very natural, and your kind will simply shift the goalposts onto the next thing, as you've been doing for centuries.

I will, however, note your little equivocation game, there, because the definition of supernatural you've cited, and the definition you evoked were two different things. The definition you've provided is fine, but the one you wanted us to think of, I think, was the one that would make your god a justifiable source for the creation of the universe. These are not the same thing; "unexplainable" is fine, but it does not mean "cannot be explained." And nor does it ascribe the kind of supernatural (divine) source you were intimating.

The most you can come to is a cause we don't understand. As far as you wanted to come was "it's my god," and you cannot do that with the definition you've cited.

I quote from the video (:55):
"In the beginning, there is nothing. No matter. No energy. Not even empty space, because space itself doesn't exist. No time passes, because there's no such thing as time. From nowhere appears a fireball smaller than an atom."

Did the other fifty minutes of the video pass you by?