Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism

[Undeceived]

Well, barring a few language errors, you've cheerfully admitted that you'll fall into that trap, because things that aren't explainable by natural law or phenomena don't stay that way for long. Just as lightning was from Zeus, and the waves were from Poseidon, and rainbows were from God, this question of the causes of our current universe won't remain supernatural according to your definition forever. In time, it will become very natural, and your kind will simply shift the goalposts onto the next thing, as you've been doing for centuries.

I will, however, note your little equivocation game, there, because the definition of supernatural you've cited, and the definition you evoked were two different things. The definition you've provided is fine, but the one you wanted us to think of, I think, was the one that would make your god a justifiable source for the creation of the universe. These are not the same thing; "unexplainable" is fine, but it does not mean "cannot be explained." And nor does it ascribe the kind of supernatural (divine) source you were intimating.

The most you can come to is a cause we don't understand. As far as you wanted to come was "it's my god," and you cannot do that with the definition you've cited.

Step two. Picture the thing/event/force that is the catalyst for our universe. What caused it? Another thing/event/force. And so on into infinity. Every thing/event/force is changing, causing the next. Now, if we obey our inclinations and find where infinity yields to a beginning, we come to a point where there was no change. But how can a thing/event/force which doesn't change (meaning it itself has no cause)...how can it cause the next thing/event/force? Answer: the first efficient cause is a personal thing/event/force with the ability to choose to cause the next thing/event/force, in spite of its changeless nature.

Please deliberate with me on this one. Can you think of an alternative?