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Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
(August 1, 2013 at 3:43 am)Undeceived Wrote: Step two. Picture the thing/event/force that is the catalyst for our universe.

Universe as it currently is. Nobody has provided a reason to discount an eternal universe yet.

Quote:What caused it? Another thing/event/force. And so on into infinity. Every thing/event/force is changing, causing the next. Now, if we obey our inclinations and find where infinity yields to a beginning, we come to a point where there was no change.

Why are we discounting plain old infinity?

Quote:But how can a thing/event/force which doesn't change (meaning it itself has no cause)...how can it cause the next thing/event/force? Answer: the first efficient cause is a personal thing/event/force with the ability to choose to cause the next thing/event/force, in spite of its changeless nature.

This is a completely content free explanation. For one thing, the answer you've provided features nothing resembling a string of logic or evidence leading from the question itself to your answer, it's at best an assertion with nothing behind it and at worse a complete non-sequitur.

For another, remember that thing I said about feeding false premises into logic, a few posts back? That. Even more strenuously, that.

Quote:Please deliberate with me on this one. Can you think of an alternative?

Okay, so first of all, even if I was unable to think of an alternative, that doesn't make your proposition true, that's an argument from ignorance.

Second, yes I can, and in fact I already gave an alternative: the physical laws of the pre- big bang universe, inevitably, via their interactions, slowly built up to a state where the big bang can occur. No mind, no personal being, but a first cause of a sort, nonetheless.

Simple.

Oh, and once again, even granting the premises of your argument, "personal cause," doesn't equal "your god." It doesn't even equal "purposeful creation." Maybe this first cause just sneezed, and bam, universe?
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Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism - by BettyG - June 9, 2013 at 10:34 pm
RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism - by Minimalist - June 9, 2013 at 11:21 pm
RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism - by Drich - June 10, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism - by Dena - June 10, 2013 at 1:46 am
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