Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism

[Mister Agenda]

The miracle that matters most to me is that Jesus rose from the dead. How do you explain that a dead man came back to life and 500 eyewitnesses saw Him?

Happens more than you'd think.
Normally due to poor medical assessment.

Do you know the credentials of the Dr that declared Jesus dead?

I do, it was a Roman soldier who's life was on the line, if he got it wrong he would be put to death. The Romans were excellent at crucifixion, they did their jobs quite well, they knew when a person was dead, they had better it was their lives on the line.

Argument from high stakes. My life being on the line doesn't magically make me more qualified to determine if someone is really dead. If I'd have been that soldier, I'd have left the man up a few more days just to make sure. After all, one of the points of crucifixion was to leave victims on display for days as a warning to others. Crucified bodies were usually left to decay. Why would the Romans treat Jesus differently?

No one survived crucifixion, that was why they were crucified.

You can't possibly know this for a fact. It makes no more sense than saying 'no one ever survived the electric chair, that is why they were electrocuted'.

You peers gave up on this argument long ago, you need to keep up.

Maybe it was given up too quickly. You're not making a very good case for the converse. Clearly the execution of Jesus was unusual at least in that he was taken off the cross quickly and entombed instead of being left to rot. Which is exactly what would have had to have happened for it to be even a possibility that he survived.

Jesus is mentioned in the Qu'ran much more often than Mohamed. They believe in the virgin birth and that Jesus will return on the Day of Judgement to defeat the false messiah and bring justice.

However, they don't believe Jesus was killed by the crucifixion, they believe God transformed someone else to look like Jesus who was crucified instead, and Jesus was ascended bodily into heaven.

Interestingly, in the Gospels, there are occasions before and after the crucifixion when people who should know Jesus have trouble recognizing him.

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I don't do good things because I'm grateful, I do them because it helps others

Why help others? Can you give me a logical reason?

It feels good.