Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism

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I dispute your contention that the universe is eternal. Your answer only pushes the question of the cause of the Big Bang further back. For example, this site, What happened before the Big Bang? at http://io9.com/5881330/what-happened-bef...e-big-bang hypothecizes that other universes existed before ours. So? What caused those universes to exist?

That's why we're not arguing for the existence of other universes. We try to avoid labeling a conclusion as factual before we can prove it is so.

It takes a bigger leap of faith to believe that universes "just happen" than the leap of faith I take in believing God cause the universe(s) to exist.

We're not taking either leap of faith. Why do you?

When I look at the incredible design of the universe, I see an intelligent designer, not a random accident.

Saying that something had a cause just because it exists is called an Argument from Ignorance fallacy. We recognize design in buildings because we know how they are built and who builds them. Saying that God created anything then begs the question of who or what made God.

If God really did design us, then how is this design intelligent since the pleasure parts of our bodies are located right on the septic areas? That screams of bad design, or no design at all. For instance, no engineer in his right mind would have made us with just one pipe for both breathing and eating. We run the extreme risk of choking to death every day. Dolphins are a better design, if anything, since they can breathe out of one hole and eat through another.

Why were scientists at CERN able to find the Higgs particle exactly as predicted? Because the universe has a design. Yes, there is the law of entropy, but that could also be part of the design.

Science has to start with a prediction based on facts already known to man. We go from there, test the hypotheses, and then we duplicate the efforts through peer review. No mystery there, and no reason to invoke Intelligent Design either.

And what about gravity? How come it is strong enough, but not too strong?
Also, why does the whole universe seem to be designed so that humans can exist? All the science in the world cannot explain the purpose of creation.

Science does not explain the purpose of creation because it does not postulate creation. Gravity on earth is as strong as it is because of the Earth's mass. You might as well ask why the gravity of the Moon isn't stronger. This question is only a red herring and deters people from looking for real answers.

The earth is not too far away from the sun nor too close. Etc, etc., etc. It is not just one fact that appears designed, but so many taken together makes a pattern of evidence for a designer. It is not a cosmic accident.

How do you know? What makes you think life couldn't have evolved elsewhere? We are hardly even a speck in the universe, but we shouldn't be so arrogant as to think that this might be the only place where life has evolved. If this planet is so perfectly designed, then why is it not more paradisiacal? Why are the earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, floods, diseases, and why is only 1/3 of this planet habitable? The Earth is a pretty hostile environment when put into this perspective.

I prefer the leap of faith I have taken to yours any day. I can have reasonable certainty that God exists, and that is good enough for me. Unless you can prove it is impossible for God to exist, I'll stick with mine. Since I am confident, you cannot do that, I don't think I will become an atheist again.

The problem comes with the fact that you have to take a leap of faith, as I illustrated earlier. If your faith is so certain, but you see why others don't want to make the same choice to believe in god that you do, then why do you insist on telling us about your beliefs and fancies? A person can have their own set of speculations, sure, but there is no reason to go about thinking of them in terms of certainty if they cannot be proven.