RE: Miracles and Anti-supernaturalism
August 8, 2013 at 2:54 pm
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2013 at 2:55 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: You (and others) have taken it upon yourself to try and discredit me, as a person....because of my lack of stats?
No one can discredit you but you.
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: Not to mention 10 of you coming from every direction...and each treating me like I have your undivided attention!
Being in the minority position online an uncomfortable experience for you? Imagine what it's like in real life.
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: I didn't research anything but was in "THAT ARTICLE". You know, the one you, and the others didn't read. But I'm supposed to READ EVERYTHING!
You're supposed to acknowledge or rebut valid points.
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: If it's personal persecution lets go in that direction from this point forward. I can fight when I'm being assaulted.
You've certainly demonstrated you can whine, I'm inclined to take your word that you can fight. Being expected to able to defend your claims isn't what most of us consider assault, though.
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: If its an exchange of ideas, concepts and experiences lets do that instead.
It would certainly be a nice change of pace from 'throw out something you heard on the internet, have it easily rebutted, whine about being picked on.'
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: But, I won't do both (like you have handily done). I haven't tried to discredit, abuse or assualt anyone here with my pov. I just express it. I don't resort to name calling and swearing, and ridicule...it's not what I want to do.
You're not actually under the impression that you've been courteous and respectful are you?
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: If I sound "condescending" as I've been wrongly accused of, its because of my enthusiasm. Not because I hate you! Or think I know it all.
So it's our fault you sound condescending?
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: But, lets compare that to all the cussing at me...for stating my opinion?
Just because you're good at being insulting while avoiding certain words doesn't mean you're being more polite than someone who uses the words you disapprove of.
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: Why?
I haven't cussed at you personally, but I would imagine it has something to do with the way you show a lack of integrity when you respond to people and when that's exposed, you start throwing accusations of persecution around with many caps and exclamation points.
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: If [any] of you can't express themseleves w/o shit, then why expect any explanations of anything I put forth? Why not expect the same bullshit back?
Using the word 'shit' doesn't make what you say bullshit. Saying things that aren't true makes what you say bullshit. Use bad words if it makes you feel better, we'll continue to focus on the quality of support your claims have.
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: I think the scriptural people here are alot better off than myself! I chose to approach atheists from a "common sense" pov. But, everyone here (atheists) fancy themseleves "intellectuals".
Lots of things that are common sense aren't actually true, but actual common sense at least sounds like it makes sense. What we consider ourselves has no bearing on the quality of your arguments or ours.
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: And as a common sense person... I've had many experiences with intellectuals who can write 10 page math formulars, but can't change a light bulb. So, the divide is deep.
The ratio of people who can change light bulbs but can't do a 5th grade math problem is much more skewed. So what?
(August 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm)ronedee Wrote: And now I see there is no common ground from that method.
Have you considered intellectual honesty? It's well-respected around here. It involves things like acknowledging mistakes, admitting it when you don't know something, not purposefully omitting relevant information, and not presenting facts in a misleading way.